Subject	It's not the technology, it's the tuning that is important.
Posted by	olyar15 on June 29, 2006 at 2:51 PM
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In Reply To	how has the z32 suspension technology aged? >> posted by stockplayerz (nyc) on June 29, 2006 at 10:00 AM
Message	After all, BMW's and Porsche 911's use MacPherson struts up front, which is not the most sophisticated setup. Yet their handling is pretty good. FWIW, I consider the handling of my M5 to be "better" than my Z. Feels more stable through corners, and more confidence-inspiring. Also, in a comparison test between the C4 vette and the Z, Car and Driver found that the Vette was more neutral, and ended up a second per lap faster than the Z. And the Vette has leaf springs. Charles Carbon Black '95 TT '02 Honda CR-V "Bustermobile" Carbon Black '03 BMW M5
Follow Ups	how has the z32 suspension technology aged? >> - stockplayerz (nyc) 10:00:03 06/29/06 i dont agree with this statement completely but... - Atl300zxTT (Less Lazy) 10:02:03 06/29/06 I wouldn't agree with that. But I'm not Stillen. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:12:13 06/29/06 It's not the money you throw at it - bankruptedz 10:22:07 06/29/06 After meeting Mr Millen, or Steve as he insists I call him - BigTDogg (MA) 10:33:18 06/29/06 Millen's a pee pee head anyway! (n/m) - bankruptedz 15:58:22 06/29/06 "rims" - Kenny 10:40:41 06/29/06 I believe that. - ENVYMYZ 10:14:27 06/29/06 How did your tires compare? (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 10:15:55 06/29/06 Exact same tires. BF Goodrich KDW-II's. (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 12:05:14 06/29/06 get stillen sways and carbing bars. and tires have to be = (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:16:37 06/29/06 The jury is still out on the shock tie bars, imho. (n/m) - Kenny 10:34:07 06/29/06 Uh, strut tower braces, w/e. (n/m) - Kenny 10:40:04 06/29/06 I'll have a better idea in a couple of weeks... - BigTDogg (MA) 10:40:17 06/29/06 They also exacerbate understeer. - Kenny 10:44:50 06/29/06 Er, the front one =). (n/m) - Kenny 10:55:00 06/29/06 Wider front tires will help that. I dunno, I'm gonna buy - BigTDogg (MA) 10:57:21 06/29/06 I'm sure it's relatively subtle. - Kenny 11:00:06 06/29/06 "TT Rear Sway-Bar" (n/m) - Guapo 10:29:44 06/29/06 Upgrade sways, FTW... - BradZ (FL) 11:21:06 06/29/06 lol - ENVYMYZ 12:11:22 06/29/06 I own both cars, and agree to a point - LSUturbotiger 10:39:11 06/29/06 Comparing bone stock to bone stock correct? - BigTDogg (MA) 11:00:41 06/29/06 Technoprancer made a pretty salient point. - Kenny 11:09:41 06/29/06 FWIW, consider this "measure" of a car's handling/suspension - LJZTT 12:10:26 06/29/06 Nice! (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue 12:39:27 06/29/06 While impressive, that's just one facet. - Kenny 13:04:20 06/29/06 awesome to know - Waco300zx 13:42:29 06/29/06 no doubt, 68 mph is no slouch, though it is a tad slower - LJZTT 17:06:28 06/29/06 I was very impressed with how *tight* a stock 350Z feels. (n/m) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 11:30:51 06/29/06 Drive any very low mileage car, and they'll feel a good bit - Barry'z (NJ) 11:46:40 06/29/06 2nd, my 59K mile TT feels incredible vs. my 120K mile 95TT - zboost(tx) 11:48:51 06/29/06 Depends on how much refreshing you do ;-) (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 19:39:03 06/29/06 I've got both as well and both with modified suspension - sfarrah 12:02:08 06/29/06 HICAS disabled? on the infield? curious about the details (n/m) - LJZTT 12:15:11 06/29/06 HICAS disabled-yes. it was the 2.9 mile config at TWS - sfarrah 12:31:54 06/29/06 But how do you know that the 300 suspension is in - RSR 14:55:00 06/29/06 2nd that - BigTDogg (MA) 15:00:54 06/29/06 Well I was running 3 deg camber front and 2 rear - sfarrah 15:16:37 06/29/06 He's a salesman. What do you expect him to say? - just4kinks 11:21:23 06/29/06 ding...ding...ding... we have a wiiiiinnnnnnnAr.... (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 11:32:01 06/29/06 The Z's suspension is really very good - Technomancer 10:59:20 06/29/06 very interesting, thanks for your input. (n/m) - stockplayerz (nyc) 11:27:30 06/29/06 so long as it keeps the contact patches on the pavement - LJZTT 11:53:19 06/29/06 An aluminum sub frame and control arms would sure be nice - Turbodog (CT) 12:33:11 06/29/06 Doug, long time no see, come on out for this > - Barry'z (NJ) 14:24:05 06/29/06 My car won't be ready till about a week after that :( - BigTDogg (MA) 14:47:34 06/29/06 Part 1, Bummer. Part 2, Excellent!! (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 15:45:36 06/29/06 Barry! - Turbodog (CT) 16:18:58 06/29/06 Cool, it'll be good to catch-up! (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 22:31:17 06/29/06 The 350Z has better front suspension geometry - kuah@splparts.com 12:51:47 06/29/06 Pfft. Data! - RSR 14:50:06 06/29/06 Care to share details on your dry sump setup? - sfarrah 15:48:56 06/29/06 LOL - kuah@splparts.com 17:03:09 06/29/06 Yes, neat. Yeah, forward any info onto sfarrah. 'Preciate it (n/m) - RSR 12:06:12 06/30/06 I just wish Nissan would used leaf springs... (n/m) - pallen 13:11:47 06/29/06 like the vettes... (n/m) - spyhunterTT(nj) 13:18:41 06/29/06 mos def (n/m) - RSR 14:50:26 06/29/06 why not go to live axle while we're at it? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:01:43 06/29/06 the best way to know is to ask the nissan engineers (n/m) - RedSER13 13:21:37 06/29/06 thanks, i'll just pick up the phone and give them a call =P (n/m) - stockplayerz (nyc) 14:17:29 06/29/06 Why? A couple hang on this board - bankruptedz 15:36:37 06/29/06 It's not the technology, it's the tuning that is important. - olyar15 14:51:46 06/29/06 chassis + suspension.. - WhiteZed 20:47:43 06/29/06 having raced against alot of different cars on the - Fleet 22:36:30 06/29/06
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